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reductionism, emergence and determinism


Friday, December 19, 2003

I’ve just had a bit of an epiphany. It’s probably not something new, but it’s a new thought to me. I’ve always been a bit more of the reductionist school of thought in the old reduction versus emergence fight. If you understand the elements in a system well enough then the so called emergent properties will become apparent due to the detailed understanding of these elements. Though I’ve always been careful to say that a thorough understanding of these elements includes how they relate to the other elements in the system. That the connections between elements or nodes in a system/network is just as important as the nature of the nodes themselves. If you understood this then you could understand the entire system from first principles.

However I now see that this is not always true. In the case of a network/system that grows with some random factor then you cannot truly predict the emergent principles. So if there is no determinism, which I wholeheartedly disagree with on an emotional level as much as any thing else then you cannot truly predict the result of the system.

Now in most real world cases of this the system does not grow truly randomly. Take the human brain. There must be some degree of predictivity of the growth of that as a system, otherwise the vast majority would be stupid lumps of flesh, and only in exceptional circumstances would the mind occur. So there must be some generally predictable outcome from first principles.

So I don’t think much different than before I now realise after writing this. I’m still in that mode of thought that wants to treat the individual elements as important as well as the links between them, sort of in the same way as light is both a particle and a wave. Emergent properties are important, but as much of the network theory research explosion is proving, that emergent properties are not magic gestalts, but predictable properties of various arrangements of connections.

One Response to “reductionism, emergence and determinism”


  1. dan Says:

    And then I read something that says exactly that. Study the elements and the linkages, the nature of the links and what they link to.

    Very good book. Nexus. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393324427/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/202-8691541-1859804

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